Comments on: Omidyar venturing out http://akahele.org/2009/08/omidyar-venturing-out/ Cautious web criticism Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:36:44 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Gregory Kohs http://akahele.org/2009/08/omidyar-venturing-out/comment-page-1/#comment-2448 Gregory Kohs Thu, 25 Feb 2010 20:59:38 +0000 http://akahele.org/?p=1079#comment-2448 Nobody said it was "evil". I'm just asking them to label it for what it is -- a seat was purchased on the board of trustees. End of story. That you'd find "hilarious" a desire to have a purportedly transparent organization be more honest about what is plain to the eye may say more about you than about me or any legion of banned Wikipedia editors. Nobody said it was “evil”. I’m just asking them to label it for what it is — a seat was purchased on the board of trustees. End of story.

That you’d find “hilarious” a desire to have a purportedly transparent organization be more honest about what is plain to the eye may say more about you than about me or any legion of banned Wikipedia editors.

]]> By: hilarious http://akahele.org/2009/08/omidyar-venturing-out/comment-page-1/#comment-2446 hilarious Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:24:18 +0000 http://akahele.org/?p=1079#comment-2446 I love two things about this: first, that it is somehow evil for a major donor to place someone on the board of trustees of a charity (no, actually, that's perfectly normal). Second, that as soon as it's published the Legion of the Banned happen along to sing your praises. Funny stuff! I love two things about this: first, that it is somehow evil for a major donor to place someone on the board of trustees of a charity (no, actually, that’s perfectly normal). Second, that as soon as it’s published the Legion of the Banned happen along to sing your praises. Funny stuff!

]]> By: Prashanth http://akahele.org/2009/08/omidyar-venturing-out/comment-page-1/#comment-2445 Prashanth Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:21:32 +0000 http://akahele.org/?p=1079#comment-2445 Hmm...well researched blog. I appreciate it. Wandered here from a discussion somewhere in the hinterland of wikipedia's bureaucratic red tape. :) One would always like to imagine that WP will not succumb to the same ills that plague most organisations committed to public good, but depending on private money. I was sure, it was bound to happen....naivete to expect otw. That said, it is very disheartening for me as a WP editor of many years to learn this. Hmpf... Hmm…well researched blog. I appreciate it. Wandered here from a discussion somewhere in the hinterland of wikipedia’s bureaucratic red tape. :)

One would always like to imagine that WP will not succumb to the same ills that plague most organisations committed to public good, but depending on private money. I was sure, it was bound to happen….naivete to expect otw.

That said, it is very disheartening for me as a WP editor of many years to learn this. Hmpf…

]]> By: Gregory Kohs http://akahele.org/2009/08/omidyar-venturing-out/comment-page-1/#comment-2424 Gregory Kohs Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:19:04 +0000 http://akahele.org/?p=1079#comment-2424 Interesting to note that this blog article and its author were <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2009-09-14/News_and_notes" rel="nofollow">mentioned by The Wikipedia Signpost</a> of September 14, 2009. You'd think that one of the editors of that article would have contacted us for comment, but no such luck. Interesting to note that this blog article and its author were mentioned by The Wikipedia Signpost of September 14, 2009. You’d think that one of the editors of that article would have contacted us for comment, but no such luck.

]]> By: Gregory Kohs http://akahele.org/2009/08/omidyar-venturing-out/comment-page-1/#comment-2091 Gregory Kohs Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:32:39 +0000 http://akahele.org/?p=1079#comment-2091 And it would appear that the Austrian faction is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Omidyar_Network&diff=next&oldid=312818354" rel="nofollow">also cognizant</a> of the underlying basis for Omidyar Network's existence. And it would appear that the Austrian faction is also cognizant of the underlying basis for Omidyar Network’s existence.

]]> By: Somey http://akahele.org/2009/08/omidyar-venturing-out/comment-page-1/#comment-2052 Somey Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:37:26 +0000 http://akahele.org/?p=1079#comment-2052 Pierre Omidyar's eBay shares are worth billions, so $2M isn't a huge expense for him, but for the Wikimedia Foundation it's at least another year or two of "safety" from their having to carry advertising on Wikipedia in order to stay afloat. Various people (including Jimbo Wales) have suggested that it would be "pointless" to buy a seat on the board of a non-profit, non-revenue-producing organization. But when you're the dominant force in an important market (like eBay is with small-time online retail and private auctions), helping to prevent Wikipedia from becoming a potentially major advertising venue for your competitors is probably worth at least that much. Wikia, OTOH, already takes advertising, so for them there must be some other reason - possibly having something to do with collectible lunchboxes. Pierre Omidyar’s eBay shares are worth billions, so $2M isn’t a huge expense for him, but for the Wikimedia Foundation it’s at least another year or two of “safety” from their having to carry advertising on Wikipedia in order to stay afloat. Various people (including Jimbo Wales) have suggested that it would be “pointless” to buy a seat on the board of a non-profit, non-revenue-producing organization. But when you’re the dominant force in an important market (like eBay is with small-time online retail and private auctions), helping to prevent Wikipedia from becoming a potentially major advertising venue for your competitors is probably worth at least that much.

Wikia, OTOH, already takes advertising, so for them there must be some other reason – possibly having something to do with collectible lunchboxes.

]]> By: Anonymous http://akahele.org/2009/08/omidyar-venturing-out/comment-page-1/#comment-2048 Anonymous Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:20:37 +0000 http://akahele.org/?p=1079#comment-2048 There certainly is more to this deal than meets the eyes--and don't expect anyone in the Foundation to open their mouths. Little birds have told me more, but I'd rather not disclose exactly what right now. There certainly is more to this deal than meets the eyes–and don’t expect anyone in the Foundation to open their mouths. Little birds have told me more, but I’d rather not disclose exactly what right now.

]]> By: Dan T. http://akahele.org/2009/08/omidyar-venturing-out/comment-page-1/#comment-2047 Dan T. Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:52:58 +0000 http://akahele.org/?p=1079#comment-2047 Their <a href="http://www.omidyar.com/" rel="nofollow">website is a .com</a> rather than a .org, which implies that the for-profit arm dominates the nonprofit one. Their website is a .com rather than a .org, which implies that the for-profit arm dominates the nonprofit one.

]]> By: Jon Awbrey http://akahele.org/2009/08/omidyar-venturing-out/comment-page-1/#comment-2046 Jon Awbrey Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:43:01 +0000 http://akahele.org/?p=1079#comment-2046 Greg, Just wanted to say "Thanks!" for yet another intelligent, well-researched piece on the complicities, er, complexities of the business world that boggle the brain of a simple-minded math-muncher like — Yours truly, Jon Awbrey Greg,

Just wanted to say “Thanks!” for yet another intelligent, well-researched piece on the complicities, er, complexities of the business world that boggle the brain of a simple-minded math-muncher like —

Yours truly,

Jon Awbrey

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