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	<title>Comments on: What happens when you cross a search engine with a wiki?</title>
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		<title>By: Jon Awbrey</title>
		<link>http://akahele.org/2009/09/what-happens-when-you-cross-a-search-engine-with-a-wiki/comment-page-1/#comment-2418</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Awbrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just by way of following up further developments and criticisms, here&#039;s a link to the &lt;i&gt;The Wikipedia Review&lt;/i&gt; thread on &lt;a href=&quot;http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=26663&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google Sidewiki&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just by way of following up further developments and criticisms, here&#8217;s a link to the <i>The Wikipedia Review</i> thread on <a href="http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=26663" rel="nofollow">Google Sidewiki</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Awbrey</title>
		<link>http://akahele.org/2009/09/what-happens-when-you-cross-a-search-engine-with-a-wiki/comment-page-1/#comment-2235</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Awbrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 08:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, hey, they have a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/sidewiki/entry/JonAwbrey/id/UMZRgq_2fvscULUkwHXbtkffYcE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;linky thingy&lt;/a&gt;, too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, hey, they have a <a href="http://www.google.com/sidewiki/entry/JonAwbrey/id/UMZRgq_2fvscULUkwHXbtkffYcE" rel="nofollow">linky thingy</a>, too!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Awbrey</title>
		<link>http://akahele.org/2009/09/what-happens-when-you-cross-a-search-engine-with-a-wiki/comment-page-1/#comment-2234</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Awbrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 08:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wiki Nelson says:

&quot;Mammas, don&#039;t let your babies grow up to be sidekicks&quot;

Okay, so I&#039;ll be a sidewinder, instead ...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/profiles/JonAwbrey?hl=en#sidewiki&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Veni, Vidi, Wiki&lt;/a&gt;

Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wiki Nelson says:</p>
<p>&#8220;Mammas, don&#8217;t let your babies grow up to be sidekicks&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay, so I&#8217;ll be a sidewinder, instead &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/profiles/JonAwbrey?hl=en#sidewiki" rel="nofollow">Veni, Vidi, Wiki</a></p>
<p>Jon</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Kohs</title>
		<link>http://akahele.org/2009/09/what-happens-when-you-cross-a-search-engine-with-a-wiki/comment-page-1/#comment-2180</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Kohs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was Modernista.com.  What a hoot that was.  I&#039;m sure Jimbo&#039;s at least a little bit rattled over the possibilities of this Google Sidewiki.  Some information is REALLY going to want to be free!

Fear not.  I am already conducting an experiment to measure the pervasiveness of this new Sidewiki tool.  I should have results within a month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was Modernista.com.  What a hoot that was.  I&#8217;m sure Jimbo&#8217;s at least a little bit rattled over the possibilities of this Google Sidewiki.  Some information is REALLY going to want to be free!</p>
<p>Fear not.  I am already conducting an experiment to measure the pervasiveness of this new Sidewiki tool.  I should have results within a month.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Awbrey</title>
		<link>http://akahele.org/2009/09/what-happens-when-you-cross-a-search-engine-with-a-wiki/comment-page-1/#comment-2171</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Awbrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 03:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember the Big Fuss that Jimbo made about that gimmick site that pasted its frame over Wikipedia (or any) content?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember the Big Fuss that Jimbo made about that gimmick site that pasted its frame over Wikipedia (or any) content?</p>
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		<title>By: Nihiltres</title>
		<link>http://akahele.org/2009/09/what-happens-when-you-cross-a-search-engine-with-a-wiki/comment-page-1/#comment-2147</link>
		<dc:creator>Nihiltres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree here in your central point that it&#039;s gameable. It rewrites one of the core rules of the Internet, which is that you can&#039;t write on other organization&#039;s pages without permission. Even Wikipedia follows this rule, though loosely: administrators can block people (that is, revoke the permission to edit) if they cause trouble.

Your headline&#039;s misleading, though: Sidewiki is neither a search engine nor a wiki. It&#039;s like Twitter or blogs, or anything else, just Sidewiki is on everyone else&#039;s page. Sidewiki lacks the virtues of a wiki: it lets everyone edit (that is, add posts) without letting everyone remove garbage. Google just assumes that up-or-down votes on each post will sort everything out. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/27/time-magazine-throws-up-its-hands-as-it-gets-pwned-by-4chan/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Can you tell where this is heading?&lt;/a&gt;

I don&#039;t see Sidewiki as being particularly useful or ground-breaking, mostly because it just emulates a tool that&#039;s already available: blogs. It &lt;em&gt;is not a wiki&lt;/em&gt;, it&#039;s just &lt;em&gt;mini-blogs splashed over other people&#039;s sites&lt;/em&gt;. If I wanted to read blog entries, I&#039;d use Google&#039;s existing blog-search tool.

I certainly hope that Google will allow site owners to opt out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree here in your central point that it&#8217;s gameable. It rewrites one of the core rules of the Internet, which is that you can&#8217;t write on other organization&#8217;s pages without permission. Even Wikipedia follows this rule, though loosely: administrators can block people (that is, revoke the permission to edit) if they cause trouble.</p>
<p>Your headline&#8217;s misleading, though: Sidewiki is neither a search engine nor a wiki. It&#8217;s like Twitter or blogs, or anything else, just Sidewiki is on everyone else&#8217;s page. Sidewiki lacks the virtues of a wiki: it lets everyone edit (that is, add posts) without letting everyone remove garbage. Google just assumes that up-or-down votes on each post will sort everything out. <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/04/27/time-magazine-throws-up-its-hands-as-it-gets-pwned-by-4chan/" rel="nofollow">Can you tell where this is heading?</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see Sidewiki as being particularly useful or ground-breaking, mostly because it just emulates a tool that&#8217;s already available: blogs. It <em>is not a wiki</em>, it&#8217;s just <em>mini-blogs splashed over other people&#8217;s sites</em>. If I wanted to read blog entries, I&#8217;d use Google&#8217;s existing blog-search tool.</p>
<p>I certainly hope that Google will allow site owners to opt out.</p>
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